Transfer certificate or Registration needed for transport?

[metalninja]

Hi Everyone,
I recently gotten into shooting and got my R/PAL. As a first purchase I went with Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 - Range kit.

I received my order today with it I got a Buyer Transfer certificate. I am wondering if I need to wait to receive the actual registration or can I transport and use my firearm at the range?

Thanks.

[linung]

Wait.

Canada Post is slow.

The transfer approval only allows you to take it home.

[metalninja]

Thank Linung. How long is the process for registration? Is it mailed same time as the issuing of transfer certificate?

[labradort]

Thank Linung. How long is the process for registration? Is it mailed same time as the issuing of transfer certificate?

It depends on backlog. It's sent from a different place. In my case they have my email address so the transfer cert is sent there. I've found it is normally within 2 weeks in my region. It's going to be slower this time of the year due to Christmas mail volume. The CFO likely would tell you 4 to 6 weeks as a canned answer since they don't have tabs on what happens at Miramachi and the like.

[IJ22]

You can wait, or you can just go shoot.
A registration certificate is not a transport document, it's a possession document. Your notice of transfer is a de facto registration certificate until your permanent one arrives.

[blacksmithden]

You can wait, or you can just go shoot.
A registration certificate is not a transport document, it's a possession document. Your notice of transfer is a de facto registration certificate until your permanent one arrives.

That is 100% not true. Every single time I've called in to the CFC to follow up on a longer than normal transfer for a customer, they remind me that the transfer notice allows me to release the gun to the customer so they can take it home. They then remind me to tell them that they have to wait for the registration certificate before they can take is out to the range (or, leave their home with it for any reason). Now...the odds of getting pulled over or checked at the range by the cops is pretty slim and you MIGHT (likely will) get a pass from the cop if all you have is the transfer notice.

[IJ22]

That is 100% not true. Every single time I've called in to the CFC to follow up on a longer than normal transfer for a customer, they remind me that the transfer notice allows me to release the gun to the customer so they can take it home. They then remind me to tell them that they have to wait for the registration certificate before they can take is out to the range (or, leave their home with it for any reason). Now...the odds of getting pulled over or checked at the range by the cops is pretty slim and you MIGHT (likely will) get a pass from the cop if all you have is the transfer notice.

Yup, I've heard that responses from the CFO on this issue vary based on province and weather. Still, there is absolutely nothing in the law that allows for a "certificate of bringing a gun home". If the transfer notice is good for bringing the gun home and keeping it until your reg cert arrives, it's good for absolutely every other function of a registration certificate as well.

[blacksmithden]

Yup, I've heard that responses from the CFO on this issue vary based on province and weather. Still, there is absolutely nothing in the law that allows for a "certificate of bringing a gun home". If the transfer notice is good for bringing the gun home and keeping it until your reg cert arrives, it's good for absolutely every other function of a registration certificate as well.

It's a completely useless additional step on the government's part. To the best of my knowledge, no one has EVER received a transfer notice and then not gotten a registration certificate. It's just another way for useless bureaucrats to make us wait a little longer, and keep themselves employed. I'm sure some liberal somewhere has shares in the company that prints the paperwork and mails it.

[Swingerguy]

Welcome to GOC.
Have you and everyone you know with a valid email address signed this petition yet? We have to keep those signatures climbing, or you might not have the ability to use that M&P for long.

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Sign/e-2341

[sltoronto]

I am wondering if I need to wait to receive the actual registration or can I transport and use my firearm at the range?

as this is the first restricted, you will have to wait for:
1) actual printed certificate
2) *.0002 version of RPAL card - make sure to keep and carry the CONDITIONS part of the paper it's glued to (or ask CFO for a printed ATT)

Added: CFO's and CFP's answers to this question may vary, but it all will depend on the decision of the LEO who stopped you.
It could end with your firearm "arrested" and you will have 14 days to produce paperwork to get it "freed".
As all certificates (and cards) are printed in batches by CFC and sent out by regular CP mail , it may take more time this season to arrive.

Up to you to gamble or not .

PS. My last certificate arrived closer to 3 weeks after TN and the firearm (late November)