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    Quote Originally Posted by greywolf67nt View Post
    The reasonably direct is most likely a CFO thing like being a member of a range.
    I believe that's in Regulation SOR-98/206 s.4: "A chief firearms officer who issues an authorization to transport shall attach to it the condition that the firearm be transported by a route that, in all the circumstances, is reasonably direct."

    and, here's a legal comment

    Included in those regulations is a requirement that the route taken by the firearms owner, from home to range and back or from home to gunsmith and back or from home to border crossing and back, be reasonably direct in the circumstances. This is an area of law that has yet to be litigated, so there is no jurisprudence on it. All we have is that requirement on its face.
    If Mr. Trudeau were asking me for legal advice, I would tell him that going to the grocery store with your pistol in your trunk is not reasonably direct in the circumstance.
    -- Solomon Friedman, Firearms Law Expert, June 10, 2015, https://sencanada.ca/en/Content/Sen/...C/33ev-52219-e

    The travel from your home to a shooting range or a shooting competition always has to be the most direct route. You don't have to map it out, but law enforcement will have to do what they do every day, which is exercise common sense in their judgment to map that out. But that's a requirement in law; it always has to be the most direct route.
    -- Kathy Thompson, Assistant Deputy Minister, Community Safety & Countering Crime Branch, Public Safety Canada, June 10, 2015, https://sencanada.ca/en/Content/Sen/...C/33ev-52219-e


    Quote Originally Posted by greywolf67nt View Post
    If it was ONLY from home to the range and back with "thou shalt not stop" and "thou shalt not even leave the vehicle to pee" the Canadian RESTRICTED Firearms Safety Course wouldn't have the section on leaving a restricted in an unattended vehicle.
    Good point.
    Nonetheless, just because one law allows something, doesn't mean another law doesn't disallow it. We have to be in compliance with them all.

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    Imo, because there are instructions and conditions on leaving a firearm in an unattended vehicle there must have been some anticipation of that.
    Time and location of unattendance would become the issue. What would be reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogi05 View Post
    Imo, because there are instructions and conditions on leaving a firearm in an unattended vehicle there must have been some anticipation of that.
    Time and location of unattendance would become the issue. What would be reasonable.
    And there is that stupid R word that is so often selectively abused by our courts and bureaucrats. Apparently it is "reasonable" for an LEO to leave firearms overnight in their cars, hence the recent thefts from those cars and no charges for the LEO. But if an ordinary gun owners leaves a gun locked in her vehicle, on her driveway, for 2 hours after getting home, that is "unreasonable" and boom charges.

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    ^^ won't disagree.
    Also, define reasonable.
    A truck driver is used to 1000kms a day, 50kms off route is nothing.

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    This is not the one I was thinking of but, anyway

    https://cssa-cila.org/legals/legal-s...and-transport/

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    What if you ran out of gas, or your car broke down and had to be towed? Do you leave you pistol in the truck while you go for gas, or bring it with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Deschain View Post
    What if you ran out of gas, or your car broke down and had to be towed? Do you leave you pistol in the truck while you go for gas, or bring it with?
    If it's towed, then leave it in the case, and when the taxi shows up bring it with you in the taxi.
    If you walk for gas, then leave it in the truck.

    Quote Originally Posted by FirearmsActRegulations
    Transportation of Restricted Firearms

    11 An individual may transport a restricted firearm only if

    (a) it is unloaded;

    (b) it is rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device;

    (c) it is in a locked container that is made of an opaque material and is of such strength, construction and nature that it cannot readily be broken open or into or accidentally opened during transportation; and

    (d) if it is in a container described in paragraph (c) that is in an unattended vehicle,

    (i) when the vehicle is equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the container is in that trunk or compartment and the trunk or compartment is securely locked, and

    (ii) when the vehicle is not equipped with a trunk or similar compartment that can be securely locked, the vehicle, or the part of the vehicle that contains the container, is securely locked and the container is not visible from outside the vehicle.

    https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/...html#h-1020008

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    Chris Wyat was asked at the range operators meeting in Ontario If I live in the north and work in the south and my gun club is in the east can I take my gun with me to work and go to the range after. His comment was it sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

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    Nowhere in the law does it say you can't stop at work. The law speaks of the route, not the stops, including the length of time I'd said stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awndray View Post
    Nowhere in the law does it say you can't stop at work. The law speaks of the route, not the stops, including the length of time I'd said stop.
    I shoot every Friday.. Well almost every Friday now. Bunch of us we stop off at the Big stop after shooting. For a bite to eat and a coffee. It's basically at the end of the road leading to the range, and next to the off ramp to get back to the highway. One is a retired RCMP and quite by the law. If it was truly illegal. He would let us know.

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