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    Quote Originally Posted by bradzilla View Post
    No where to return it..lol... cant sell it.... probably they'll make you jump through hoops for it..lol
    Welcome to our world of stupid, arbitrary, bureaucratic "laws", used to support their personal disarmament agenda. All enacted under the name of regulations, subject to change with the wind, phase of the moon, whatever floats their boat today.

    Cheers!

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    If your in alberta you will need a range membership associate or full and most ranges
    will do an associate for 1/4 of the cost or the CFO simply will not do the transfer
    and will just sit on it until you or the retailer inquires what the hold up is
    but most retailers know that and will help as best they can to sell you your firearm

    heres the other kicker if your membership is not renewed to said range or any other
    and they still list you owning a restricted, as ranges have to report
    when your membership is up or changed
    they will not let you renew your rpal or ATT until you have proven member ship
    hereby making you an instant criminal
    as you must have a reason for buying or owning a restricted firearm
    target shooting is the usual so ......
    all have said this is not law but I have personally been subject to this
    when purchasing, and a buddy who went to renew his license as well

    welcome to the Game , you will never here anyone say it made any kind of sense

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    In BC, you are required to have a club membership to purchase a restricted firearm and maintain that membership for as long as you own it. You would be surprised how many people get a membership in a club, let it lapse after a year and then, after their RPAL and LTATT are up for renewal, scramble to try to get a new membership. With the caps on membership and new membership requirements at most of the clubs around the lower mainland, they are hard pressed to get one. We do not anticipate any new memberships being available this year at our club.
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    West of Edmonton, there is CHAS and Wildwood. If you want a restricted firearm, you'll need a range membership for an ATT.

    Those two clubs above, have no waiting period. You pay and you're a member. At CHAS, you will need to take a range safety course. No biggy.

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    Minor correction 6MT, you have to pass a "range orientation" at CHAS. It may be completed online.

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    During debate in the House, a government member stated that - should C-42 become law - there will no longer be any requirement to belong to an approved shooting club or range.

    Published to YouTube on May 26, 2015 by Battle Beaver
    This video is the 3rd and FINAL Reading on May 25th 2015. Bill C-42, "Common Sense Firearms Licensing Act" in Federal Parliament during HoC Sitting No. 216 on May 25, 2015.
    Next step for this Bill is to be sent to the Senate, and it should be made law by the end of June 2015.
    Source of video:
    http://parlvu.parl.gc.ca/parlvu/Conte...


    Retired Maryland State Police Captain Jack McCauley speaking in the Maryland Senate for CCW reform:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdUaPDiW-GY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendell View Post
    During debate in the House, a government member stated that - should C-42 become law - there will no longer be any requirement to belong to an approved shooting club or range.
    Are you sure?
    I heard an MP say that if Bill C42 becomes law that there will no longer be any requirement to belong to an approved shooting range to transport a firearm there.
    I did not hear an MP say that if Bill C42 becomes law that there will no longer be any requirement for a target shooter to belong to an approved shooting range to renew an RPAL.
    I did not hear an MP say that if Bill C42 becomes law that there will no longer be any requirement for a target shooter to belong to an approved shooting range to purchase a restricted firearm.

    John Barlow (con, alberta)

    As a result of an authorization to transport being made a condition of a restricted licence, some people have asked whether it would be a requirement of getting a licence to be a member in good standing of a shooting club or shooting range. The clear answer to this is no. There would be no requirement in law for individuals to maintain a membership at a gun range in order to transport their restricted firearms.

    May 25, 2015
    http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublicati...&Parl=41&Ses=2 &Language=E&Mode=1
    Admittedly, politicians are not usually accurate in their statements, but that's what he said.


    I have heard a lawyer say that that there has never been any requirement for a target shooter to belong to an approved shooting range to renew an RPAL or to purchase a restricted firearm.
    Last edited by RangeBob; 05-30-2015 at 07:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangeBob View Post
    ...that's what he said...
    What I heard:

    "...There would be no requirement in law for individuals to maintain a membership at a gun range in order to transport their restricted firearms."
    Maybe that isn't what he meant.

    Quote Originally Posted by RangeBob View Post
    ...I have heard a lawyer say that that there has never been any requirement for a target shooter to belong to an approved shooting range to renew an RPAL or to purchase a restricted firearm.
    The law requires the CFO to evaluate whether the restricted firearm(s) are actually being used for the stated purpose; if the stated purpose is "target shooting", the individual must be prepared to prove to the CFO his/her participation in target shooting. As we all know, the CFP has required the respective CFOs to require membership in at least one approved shooting club, but, in the case of a bonafide target shooter - as (Saint John) Jon Gould's court case proved - membership in an approved shooting club isn't actually required by law.

    P.S.: I can't find a transcript of the Gould case...do any of you have a link to it?
    Retired Maryland State Police Captain Jack McCauley speaking in the Maryland Senate for CCW reform:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdUaPDiW-GY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendell View Post
    P.S.: I can't find a transcript of the Gould case...do any of you have a link to it?
    Here it is:

    Gould v. New Brunswick (Chief Firearms), 2008 NBPC 24 (CanLII)
    <http://canlii.ca/t/1x0m6>
    retrieved on 2015-05-31
    Retired Maryland State Police Captain Jack McCauley speaking in the Maryland Senate for CCW reform:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdUaPDiW-GY

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    Nova Scotia they will not allow the transfer to go thru, if you do not have a current membership to a gun club.

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