View Poll Results: How long does it take to issue a club-level ATT in Ontario?

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    Also- there is regulation that requires safety training for range use;
    7. (1) The operator of a shooting range shall ensure
    that every person who indicates an intention to use the
    shooting range for the first time is informed of the safety
    rules used at that shooting range.



    (2) No person may use a shooting range for the first
    time without having received the information referred to
    in subsection (1).
    This can be simple or more involved but it required whether a ATT is needed or not.

    Also;
    5. The operator of an approved shooting range shall
    ensure that the discharge of firearms on the shooting
    range does not endanger the safety of persons at the
    shooting range or in the portion of the surrounding area
    described in paragraph 3(2)(a), by taking appropriate
    measures, including ensuring that
    (a) the design and operation of the shooting range


    (i) is such that projectiles discharged from firearms
    will not leave the shooting range if they are discharged
    there in accordance with the safety rules,
    and
    (ii) promotes the safety of all persons on the shooting
    range, including by accommodating any adaptation
    that may be appropriate given the nature of the
    shooting activities that may take place and the type
    and calibre of firearms that may be used there;
    Last edited by 3MTA3; 08-05-2014 at 12:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3MTA3 View Post
    Also- there is regulation that requires safety training for range use;
    True,.. but the actual course is at the discretion of the club not the CFO. Hence why the club can exempt anyone they wish and the CFO cannot say squat about it. (Trust me I've done it)

    Quote Originally Posted by 3MTA3 View Post
    This can be simple or more involved but it required whether a ATT is needed or not.

    Also;
    very true and it does vary depending on the club.. but IMO that is how it should be.. the club is whom you deal with and it is up to them and/or their BOD to decide what they want for a course etc etc. No idiotic oversight by the CFO ever needed

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    Well actually the course is specified by the CFO' office-
    ..Successfully completed a club level handgun safety course that meets the minimum training and testing standards prescribed in the CSSA, CFI ,CQB or equivalent club level safety course. All have shown a responsible attitude and behavior towards the care, handling and use of firearms and are hereby recommended by the executive of said club to have their authorizations to transport issued..
    -From the form submitted by clubs to the ministry

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3MTA3 View Post
    Well actually the course is specified by the CFO' office-

    -From the form submitted by clubs to the ministry
    The CFO's can quote that til the cows come home.. but it is not law. Hence why there is no cohesive course (nor should there be if any CFO/CFC is in charge).. it is upto the particular club what they decide is what they want.

    As for the CSSA, CFI, CQB etc,.. all courses are different and again shows how there is no "law" in this regards.. much to the dismay of wyatt and his ilk whom continue to spread myths and lies in this regard.


    Also of note.. " are hereby recommended by the executive of said club to have their authorizations to transport issued.."

    This has nothing in law to back it up since an ATT has to do with transport laws not use laws and they are mutually exclusive and cannot nor should not be confused (as per established legal prescient)

    Once again more myths and lies that sadly are all too commonly spread and even more sadly believed.
    Last edited by Shalimar; 08-05-2014 at 04:01 PM.

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