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Just a picture of something in the pipe.
Whats the calibre? I'm guessing 308Quote:
North Eastern Arms NEA102 - FRT 145970 - The FRT was given along with permission to produce one sample for final inspection based on the contents of our data package request. The inspection is due to be complete shortly... measured in weeks.
Interesting. I understand this is based on the original AR10 - and should be non restricted. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Interesting, awaiting more details..
308 to start then 243, 6.5 Creedmoor and 260 REM.Quote:
Originally Posted by lone-wolf
Interesting indeed.
This is very interesting if NEA gets it NR and in at the price point they want ($1500)
Excellent. I'll take one plus a conversion kit to .223 ;D
oh please NR
$1500 is crazy nice price if it comes to it.
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If it comes in at less than 2K I will preorder one.
Nice. Might put my 7.5"" PDW plan aside for one of these!
defiantly want one with a .223 conversion kit
A 308 is not my cup of tea but a 6.5 will get my attention.
Heck yeah it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by lone-wolf
Would love to see one in x39.
Once this actually hits the market in NR form, I will sell every bolt gun I have to fund this one.
NR and under 2K I will be jumping for joy!!
From Facebook this morning
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All NEA102 BCG's come with a Stainless Steel Gas Key, machined from billet using Suppressor Grade 316 Steel. Gas Keys are mechanically staked around aerospace grade bolts
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2f&oe=58ECB8A1
Saw that this morning, too. 5 kinds of sexy right there.
Looks like I'll be holding off on buying new goodies and saving up for this.
Now if the lab can hurry up so NEA can get this to market.
Can everyone stop saying they're excited for this to be less than 2k, and start saying they're excited for this to be around 1500 like Nea said it would be?
You guys are driving up the price! It's going to be a tough sell to the wife at 1500, let alone $2000.
How is it NR?
Or rather how could it possibly be NR?
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The AR102 is already a Non-Restricted firearm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshua13
It would be up to the lab to determine if this firearm meets the requirement of the AR102.
If so it will be NR.
That's when the fun begins.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwirecom109
Hmm I could find only a few old pics and one forum write up about the ar102. Seems like this one from NEA is more of a ar10 which are restricted? I know that ATRS had to jump through big hoops to get theirs NR and finally it was because there was no way to modify it to link up to an AR....This one looks like it could....Not to bring the rain I just have my doubts
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I'll buy one either way, restricted or non restricted. Will love it be my coyote rig though
The actual, real AR-10 is non restricted in Canada, just rare as hen's teeth. The modern restricted "AR-10's" are a little different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshua13
Hi Guys,
Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
I know NEA offered lifetime warranty on their AR-15. I still have my 1st gen DMR and still running OK.
If ever (fingers crossed) the new AR102 will be NR, will it still have lifetime warranty with NEA ?
I'll leave this right here.....
http://www.gunownersofcanada.ca/atta...tid=2046&stc=1
Jwire the pics no show!
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Haha thats awesome. Pics worked for me.
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That's what I'm talking about!Quote:
Originally Posted by jwirecom109
My father and I are definitely in for one of these each as soon as the NR status is confirmed.
Looks great, price is right and Canadian made.
I was just about to start building a .308 DMR, so perfect timing as well.
Sign me up! Is there a pre order list or something? My credit card hasn't been worked out in awhile.
sweet
Looking forward to seeing this
This is great and all if it ends up being/staying NR and is a good semi-auto AR pattern .308 rifle.
Thing is, I don't understand how any of this is even possible. I'm not trying to be a hater here but just step back a minute.
The original AR10 is considered NR
Most modern AR10 style rifles like the KAC rifles, DPMS, etc have been considered R as AR15 variants
The AR15 and "variants" of the M16 are considered R yet the AR15 came before the M16
The AR15 which is R, was based off the AR10 that came before it which is NR (but modern variations of it are considered R)
The ATRS MH rifle is NR and it's basically a side charging AR15 with an AR10 trigger group and the upper/lower machined in a proprietary way so they don't interface with typical AR15/AR10 style rifles.
Legal drama aside... Stupid Canadian classification system aside... These rifles all operate with the same key principles that distinguish any given rifle from another kind. They're basically like different generations of Chevy Small Block, it's still a freaken Chevy Small Block. How can one be banned or deemed as something else and another something else entirely and not banned.
I'm not trying to preach to the choir here. It's been my long standing belief that the RCMP Lab and various other classification powers that be know that this whole system is ass backwards retarded and has many contradictions. They know that even the first gen AR10's are AR15 style rifles (it's really AR15's that are AR10 style technically but you get it) and they just never did anything about it because they know there's only a handful of them.
What I'm trying to say is basically this whole NR AR style rifle thing, first started by ATRS and now NEA is ridding on some shaky ground. The fact that the ATRS rifles were high priced boutique items not readily available at a low price sort of made it fall into the same category as the rare as hell original AR10's that are NR. If you get an AR style firearm that's NR and mass produced/readily available to the public at a cheap cost, that changes the entire dynamic to those who want to see those types of firearms banned/restricted. I feel like it could go the Beowulf Magazine way, nothing happened when it was just the od boutique magazines from one manufacture that nobody could find then when everybody started making them/importing them and they were available to everyone for a low price the RCMP finally acted.
I want to see this succeed, it sounds awesome so kudos to everybody evolved including SFRC but at the same time I got a bad feeling. As for myself, I've never been one to buy/not buy something on the basis that "it could be banned". If it's legal at the time I'm buying it.
Let's seriously cross our fingers on this! I'll have one in .308 and another in 6.5Creed if it's an accurate enough platform!
I'm in, .308.
Can't wait for this announcement. In for a OD Green model in the first shipment if I can get in before the crowd!
NEA throws in GOC reference. Interesting, very interesting.
This is good news. Loving the Canadian gun industry - its great to spend dollars on Colt Canada and other manufacturers like NEA!
Love to see this work for several reasons. Great idea NEA!
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Originally Posted by Ohno
NEA more or less claims the garden network owner imposes extortion on retailers and manufacturers. You'll duly note the GROUPTHINK over there about NEA is quite strong. Some of it justified, most of it second-hand and rumours.
What's the NEA groupthink? I've not seen or shot an NEA before.
Originally had some quality control issues with their black ARs looking grey, (and mismatched uppers/lowers), as well as some bolt issues on some AR calibres, but in the last decade or so they have been making mostly good stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by shootemup604
Canadian company, too, so best to support if possible.
Back in the day, I had my eyes and pocketbook on a original Dutch AR-10. At the time firearms were considered harmless and I went for the Belgian FAL instead. Had I the cash I would have bought both.
I've shot a small pile of rounds out of mine, hard use and competition. I've had absolutely ZERO hiccups so far, the rifle has run 100% flawlessly. Every. Single. Bit. As well as my friends DD....except my NEA is more accurate!! :p :p :pQuote:
Originally Posted by shootemup604
Nice. I'm all about Canadian guns. I'd like to get my hands on one of those Dlask Sig clones someday, and despite the gripes about Para-Ord when it was in Canada, I'd like to try/own one too.
They have been selling these in NZ and South Africa as a NEA 25 for awhile now so they should have the bugs worked out by now .
On my first gen NEA15 I had a hammer spring leg break and it has run fine other than that.
Great warranty as well . If it comes out as a non restricted 308 NEA 102 with a suggested price of $1500 .... I will be getting one for sure :cool1:
Any updates? :)
I still want one
Exactly! Me tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
they just published some pictures of barrels on their facebook. Also I'm thinking the whole RCMP lab is probably at shotshow, so no releases yet is my guess.
I wonder if they will announce something during shot show?
Kinda doubt they would save an announcement for shot show. I suspect if it's going to be NR the minute they get the notice of final status they will announce it so they can start raking in the dough, and estimate what they need for a production run (or runs) based on initial pre-orders and other such businessy stuff. I could see them waiting until an opportune time of day, like if they find out at 5pm they might wait until 10 am the next morning or something.
For the most part I'd be interested in the lower or whatever other thing makes it considered an "AR10" and try to hook it up to an SR25 upper/parts.
NEA just posted a picture on Facebook of a 9mm carbine and said it is going to be a NEA102 variant and offer it with a 18.5 inch barrel
Cool, if they can keep it below a grand. Going to take much to pry away my cx4.
I gather these 102s are already on the market overseas. We won't be beta testers.
I just have to decide whether to get some surplus 7.62 or suck it up and start reloading it One. Round. At. A. Time.....
Do both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark-II
Mark II,
Reloading does not have to be slow. For about $3k you can have a loaded Dillon 650 and four calibres, complete with auto loading primer tubes and casing feeders.
A new cartridge drops out every couple seconds once you're set up.
How many rounds of bulk medium quality ammo do you need to make/shoot vs the price of factory surplus before you break even on a setup like that, I'm guessing it's around the 8-9000 range. Note I said medium quality because I doubt you'll be cranking out top of the line match stuff on a progressive, I could be wrong though. I'm not challenging you here, just genuinely interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petamocto
Any update of FRT ?
Nope. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by hawk-i
When NEA knows, I'm certain everyone else will know quite promptly.
NEA Stated that they will be making the announcement on these forums when they find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk-i
NEA just teased NR.... on facebook. anyone have FRT access to check?
They posted this pic and said .. " Can a rifle call shotgun?? .... only if it's NR. "
#nea102
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/...36653438_n.jpg
Hopefully its true !
The suspense is killing me?
Please stop teasing me NEA, I'm gonna stroke out from this anticipation.
NEA is teasing us even harder then normal now...
http://i.imgur.com/0gaY8Xg.png
No one likes a tease.
Unless they're selling a gun I really want.
There's no way they can't know by now that it's NR.
They've got a pic of it riding in a car with a seatbelt with a hashtag with NR and AR right in it.
No company would risk baiting like that if there was any risk at all of it backfiring on them, because they'd be hated.
I wouldn't bet my kids' lives on being right on this one, but I'd bet a hell of a lot of money that they already know, and they're merely cranking them out on the assembly line so they can sell 10,000 of them at once when they go on sale for $1500.
Well NEA said that they know what the lab said, so...... the FRT is probably out there, someone needs to just check it
NopeQuote:
Originally Posted by sushix2
Wouldn't be the first time they lied... lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by Petamocto
Lab is going to sit on it until the new committee employs their feelings to create Evidence Based Policy to call this a scary assault style rifle (cuz pistol grip and flash hider and shit) that has no place being on the street inside of any law abiding citizens home.
Just my gut.
We ARE dealing with social justice retards after all
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Originally Posted by Mark-II
CBSA is gonna sh*t bricks when they get my ACR at the border. They might make a panicked phone call to Trudeau, Inc, to see if this is indeed permitted. ;D
Actually they will laugh that you overpaid for your ACR and should of bought one couple years ago :-)
The RCMP says engraved emblems make rifles prohibited. I'm not betting on anything right now.
Friday would be a good day for an announcement.
About time they did a pre order so SFRC doesn't crash when they drop. Just take my money already.
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Originally Posted by DILLIGAF
If you honestly think the NEA's will make it out the door at that price point through the gestapo's lab, I have an oceanview property in Alberta to sell you. ;D
On FB today NEA is talking like its a done thing and they're just building up stock prior to dropping the ball within the next month.
...I mean like the New Years ball..not fumbling a ball..
I'm not really understanding the continuation of manufactured suspense when it's been spoiled already...
were talking about deer hunting with it on facebook today as well
Watch the RCMP reclassify the original Dutch AR10 from NR to prohib.
With the shooting in Quebec today....the NR status of this firearm is less likely to happen anytime soon.
Well, I've got my vasectomy booked for march 16.
I think an nea 102 would be just the thing to commemorate the occasion, and compensate for my new lack of certain ability.
I'm hoping this once in a lifetime event will be enough to sway the budget committee (wife) in favour of the last hunting rifle I'll ever need. (Until the next one, I guess)
It's probably the best argument I've ever had for a new gun, but it's also more money than I've ever spent on a gun.
I hope it works.
I can hear the conversation on this one now, "Honey...since I'll be shooting blanks, I need a new rifle that will do my shooting for me!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
Seems like as logical of a reason as any other.
Love it! Hahaha. It's so crazy it just might work!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
I messaged NEA on FB they said the calibers will be .308, 243, and 260. There is probably going to be a run on cheap 308 ammo as soon as these come out.. I would buy it now. ;)
I promised to never buy a 308 because I'm so invested in 30.06 platforms.
May actually consider a 243 because I have no 6mm calibres and I've heard nothing but good things.
I'm surprised they wouldn't go with 6.5. Creedmore likely too long, but Grendel would work.
I'd expect 7mm-08 over 260. Oh well.
I think I'd probably go for the 243 route myself.
. 308 for me. I've got a stash.
6.5Creedmoor is based off the .308 case. Ditto .260Rem. 6.5Grendel is kinda sorta based off the 7.62x39 (long convoluted story. Some say 6.5PPC, others say 6PPC, others still say .220 Russian. All based off the x39 though.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Petamocto
I'm not too sure the Creedmoor would reliably feed, given the shorter case and sharper shoulders for the OAL. I think .260 is going to have the edge here.
Seeing as the NEA 102 will NOT be a long range gun for me, the 308 win. will be my pick. :)
For varmints 110 V-max...for moose 180 SST and a lot of choices in between :) :)
It's going to have to be a very accurate platform to start with for the creedmoor to make sense IMO. But the hordes of people in the states with creedmoor AR10's show that it will reliably feed.
My delivery from tradex came today :)
Two substantial wooden crates :)
From Austria, with love :)
Now I need a scope :)
A mount :)
A gun :D
Surplus 7.62NATO?
Ja
I figure it's not going to get any cheaper..
I bought a couple crates of hirtenberger also. For me its only .10 cents a round more than the norinco surplus with reloadable brass. Totally worth it.
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Originally Posted by Mark-II
I just saw a quote from nea (I don't think it was breaking news) saying again to watch GOC for an announcement, because it's the only forum "Not run by douchebags and whores".
So, congratulations to Gun Owners of Canada for not being douchebags and whores. (That's a solid business strategy right there).
I keep seeing this thread updated. And I open it ever time hoping to put down some cash. Please make my dreams come true soon.
Douchebags and whores? I guess they must have had a little tiff with gunnutz?
Pretty sure a lot of us are doing the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBen
Oh, I'm sorry, did I make you check again. :cool1:
GOOD NEWS!!!! THIS JUST CAME IN!!!!
Made ya look. :la:
So much for not being douchebags.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingHigh
;)
(It did make me look, by the way)
There's a special place in hell for people like you :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by FlyingHigh
Hey FH... **** you. :P
Apparently an announcement of some sort is pending....
Yeah, something about taking a new gun out coyote hunting tomorrow.
I want it so bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by WSA
I wish I was coyote hunting with one today.
We'll post when it is approved. Besides that I don't have anything else to tell you :(
Ryan
NEA needs to be careful because they may risk actually making people mad at them for needless teasing and under-delivering.
It's one thing to advertise something coming to build interest, but you have to time it right to increase exposure for your brand.
They are now getting to the point where they risk a loss in brand value if they don't deliver soon.
I don't think they care. They've been dealing with haters and bad mouthing for so long doubtful much else will impact their profits more. It's probably already been factored in to pricing/strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petamocto
And seeing the language they're using, flat out in your face non PC verbage they are confident in their product and know their customers.
They have the market cornered. They're building hype.
I'd argue this is increasing their brand value.
My point is that there is a culminating point in building that hysteria, and beyond that point it becomes a net negative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
Clearly it would be too long if they released this gun in 2020, so the point becomes at what point is the right balance of building hype vs being a c•ck tease that p!sses people off.
My stance is that it's fine to tease the market in a healthy manner, but now that it is getting long in the tooth for today's short attention span, it is a detriment to make these things dwell on too long.
It's one thing to say we've got something big coming up. It's another to provide a timeline and accurate updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petamocto
If I wanted cryptic posts that I didn't fully understand, I'd log onto my wife's Facebook.
I have a Bushmaster ACR inbound that's actually designed to work.
Let's all recall the "miracle gun" the XCR was supposed to be... And how it actually turned out...
If the NEA102 doesnt live up to the hype, fortunately we will have the APC308 to fall back on next year :-)
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Originally Posted by DILLIGAF
- MSRP: $2976. USD
One of the reasons why the 102 is so interesting its 1500 range CAD
The NEA25 AR10 (same thing I think) is selling for considerably more in NZ and their dollar is about par. Maybe shipping and import jacks the price up?
https://nzar15.com/store/firearms/a-category/nea
Exactly. If this was another $2-3-4000 gun, nobody would be batting an eye. The thing everybody has to remember is that if the stars align for us and Maxim Bernier (sp?) winds up being the next pm, there's a good chance we'll be hunting and off range target shooting with our AR10s and 15s in the not too distant future.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwirecom109
Am I holding my breath ? Nope. If been in this game long enough to know the only thing that's guaranteed is that our struggle against uneducated hoplophobes who want to take all of our guns will never be over. Right now, there's a window of opportunity for NEA to put a very desirable product on the market if they can get it there soon, and for a decent price. Waiting another 2-3 years or pricing it around what they want for a Modern Hunter.....Well....That's just throwing opportunity out the window.
Well for timeline and updates, they are well ahead of many companies for providing information.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBen
Indicated stocking up on inventory in advance of taking orders. That's huge difference
Indicate release is within a month or so. Starting like some companies that are YEARS into saying this.
Just PHUCKING with ya cause they can? Johnone sounds familiar, but several vendors here have a nonPC take on customer relationships.
And it's YOUR opinion they're going on too long. It's their money, their strategy and I'm guessing they're reading more feedback an just yours. If they're happy with the strategy power to em. Worked for JAWS, failed for CLOVERFIELD.
If they open the floodgates at the time they said , all water under the bridge. If they miss their announced targets, vilified by the villages.
My APC556 will be here in a couple of weeks, And if it's as nice as expected I won't have any issues saving up for the APC308 if the NEA102 fails to deliver. And with NEA's track record nothing will surprise me.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwirecom109
they dont even have an FRT yet...lol...
Any updates ??
I thought this week would be the week.
On January 29th they said they would announce it in the next 30 days so they still have 4 more days lol
But who's counting...
Or simply announce that there will be an impending announcement in 30 days or less
Saw the pic of barrels in their latest post. Apparently someone is buying these to kill ISIS/DAESH according to NEA - who might that be?
I just want to know where to send my money.
When we have an update on them we will post. At this time I have no other info to share.
Ryan
I hate to say it but this has been a long delay for news which makes me suspect it's going to end up restricted. :(
Have some faith, brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by WSA
I hate to say it but this has been a long delay for news which makes me suspect it's going to end up restricted. :(
Thanks Ryan.Quote:
Originally Posted by SFRC
I realize this is probably out of your control. I'll try not to spend this pile of cash I'm sitting on in the meantime.
I think somebody lost the paper work. :(
They posted a pic recently on FB
Yeah, they are proper little C__k teases, with all those guns for overseas distribution.
I'm rapidly losing interest, in consequence.
Just bumping this thread for people to be hopeful and disappointed still. My ACR is shooting very nicely. ;D
My vasectomy is this week. If the 102 doesn't become available soon, I might miss my sympathy window where my wife will let me buy it.
Ha ha ha, good luck with that. I had to get put to sleep, because I kept twitching,every time the surgeon, stuck the needle in my balls.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
Sorry about the off topic:)
This is how I feel waiting for the NEA102.Quote:
Originally Posted by brianmac65
You're on pins and needles?
LOL,ya I hear ya,Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBen
Every I see the Nea thread pop up,I open it ,all exited,only to see a ,it's not gonna happen comment.
Just like a needle in da nuts:)
Your being funny now, you won't be laughing when the nurses shave your balls,and then the doc,shoves that big ol needle in your ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
:) JK, it'll be fine.
No it won't. MuahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by brianmac65
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If this gun comes back restricted, North Eastern Arms should move out of Canada, and pay taxes, and create jobs somewhere else.
They've got a market in NZ
Saw a comment on Facebook that said they're still waiting on the RCMP lab. They're probably trying to figure out how to justify a restricted classification. My outlook is positive.
If it's taking this long, I think it means they are stumped.
It takes some time for the Firearms Lab to make their own parts...Quote:
Originally Posted by DOOK
Unless they're postponing the decision until the new firearms advisory committee is up and running so that they can recommend it restricted.
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Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
Bingo..
Since the rcmp approved the mpx today my faith just went up......
Don't matter to me now, I just bought a Tikka T3 Varmint this afternoon. Hopefully others have more will power than me and don't spend their cash before the NEA102 is released.
In the process of spending my cash....
The MPX I hear is restricted by dint of being classified as a handgun, and so even the carbine will be restricted.
I'm willing to bet bacon that right now anything they can shove through as restricted they will pass, whereas NR will be difficult. That pinko in the PMO would love to get long guns registered, after all.
No news is bad news.
The MPX carbine is 2" of barrel short of non-restricted.
This is what CTCS said on reddit:
FRT 147079 & 176482
Carbine "restricted" by barrel length. Pistol "restricted" as pistol. Having the pistol means that 10-round pistol mags are approved!
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Originally Posted by Mark-II
is this thing dead???
I agree, and this is where NEA is failing timing-wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by tinman304
Drawing something out is one thing, but today's consumer has very little patience.
If you have a product you want to tease, you've got a couple weeks to play with to build your "buzz".
Beyond that you actually start to cause harm to your brand because you make people dislike you.
You agree with a question?Quote:
Originally Posted by Petamocto
I'm pretty sure this isn't going as planned for anyone (except the Rcmp)
I've Asked Jeff about this, as he wants to give away a AR102 on GOC as part of the announcement (of it coming to the Canadian market, hopefully NR)Quote:
Originally Posted by Petamocto
It's a waiting game with the CFO, I think we all know that, it's not dead, it's not classified yet.
They keep getting told one date and it extends out to another date, out of the control of NEA.
Yeah. Good old arsey mp. Keeping us safe, one idiotic classification at a time.
C&P from nea Facebook page
North Eastern Arms
The 102 is not dead, the Rcmp has 6 months from the time we filed to give us a classification. We already have the frt that lists the 102 as a variant of the already non restricted armalite ar102.l
They filed in Dec 2016.
So we should still be good for deer season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Therapy
I guess I can climb down from this ledge...
That's fine that the delay may be the fault of the RCMP, but NEA shouldn't be promoting this sort of gun coming if there is a risk a a six-month delay.
A better course of action would be to wait for the RCMP non-restricted approval and THEN post the upcoming specs about the rifle while you build a ton.
Then in the month it takes you to build the first run of 1,000, the Canadian internet frenzy happens, and when the buzz is at its culminating point you launch them for sale.
That's how you win marketing.
You lose marketing by showing your audience something that's coming "soon", and then don't deliver for 6+ months. It doesn't matter if it's your fault or not.
I'm literally crapping my pants trying not to buy other stupid stuff while I'm waiting for this.
If I wasn't in the middle of selling my house and moving, I'd have already spent it. I make absolutely no promises beyond the middle of May.
This isn't marketing 101.
It's marketing 102.
HEY-OH!
I'm here all night
After reading the 375 raptor thread, I've came to the conclusion that this would be a great platform.
Any details on whether the NEA102 uses an AR10 barrel or is there something different?
So apparently the rcmp does not have a 6 month deadline.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics...laws-1.3753514
CBC hurts my head.....if it was so secret, how come we all knew about it?
I don't see what was wrong with Blaney's directive for the RCMP to actually do their job.
Nothing, CBC just had to spin it as bad because guns are bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBen
It's been a month since anyone posted in this thread.
Remember how excited we were 5 months ago?
My excitement packed up and moved out
So did my NEA102 money. Right to a Troy PAR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haywire1
NEA fails at marketing. The wave of hype broke and crashed months ago.
Not sure why they would expect an obstructionist police force to actually do their jobs instead of the usual Go Slow, which I'm certain has more to do with the anti gun culture than it has with staffing.
I assumed they had some actual solid information when it was announced, rather than a stopwatch and the timetable of a former minister from a previous government....
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Originally Posted by Mark-II
Did this rifle ever get its NR status? I need a semi auto 308 that is not a norinco!
I read here in the comments that it did at twice the price..
https://canadianfirearmsblog.ca/nea-...ar10-platform/
It's still stuck in FRT hell at the lab. If it had made it out, I'd already have one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo111
Hype machine starts rolling, RCMP sees it, decides to take their sweet time and kill all hopes/hype. NEA should have shut up until they got an FRT and started the hype machine up then.
Still nothing eh? I'm tempted to file an ATIP for 5 bucks just to see what place this firearm is at in the classification queue. As long as this is NR and I get it before deer season I'll be okay.
I think this has jumped the shark and is being eaten by a polar bear...Quote:
Originally Posted by sushix2
The Bison aren't gonna crap this out anytime soon...
Just saw on Facebook that an announcement is coming this week.
To be announced on GOC first, expected monday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBen
Just read that as well. Very exciting news
Hoping it's a go....had the cash saved up ready to buy a few months ago, bought a tikka varmint. ...have the cash saved up again for the 102, don't know how much longer I can resist not buying the Safari Express my LGS has in stock.
Glad to hear.
On an unrelated note, does anyone know what a kidney goes for these days?
No clue but if you find out make sure to let me know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
Also would be willing to part with my first born
http://www.havocscope.com/black-mark...rgans-kidneys/Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
google has all the creepy info
I have been waiting patiently since NEA first started hinting about this. I told myself I wouldn't buy another gun until this was released.... My LGS changed my mind into not buy any more RIFLES until this comes out. The S&W 686 and HK SFP9 I bought don't count. :p
Looking forward to the range reports.
In the end I have to admit to myself that I have no real use for one, other than to piss off Liberals.
And these days you can do that for free just by telling the truth :D
Lots of use for a semi auto bad ass 308, moose, deer, rabbits, grouse, squirrels...... Its endless what you could use it for.:bananna::bananna::bananna:
I'm rubbing my nickels together for tomorrow. Hoping for a 6.5CM under $1500.
With a PAR and a 102 you'll waste half of hunting season trying to decide what rifle to pick up in the morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBen
Very excited
Nah, I got two arms !Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
If this gets non res status at that price point I won't be replacing the RA XCRm I sold with another one I'll buy two of these instead!!!
Any news yet?
You can wait 364 days for Christmas, but the night before was always unbearable.
The anticipation is killing me! I'm basically getting no work done today watching all the forums and Facebook pages for any slip up of the designation!! Lol
I am in the same boat Farmer 2285.Quote:
Originally Posted by Farmer2285
I think we're going to sink this boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay T
Will the announcement be on this thread today?
yeah i'd like to know which page to frantically refresh!
i don't know which chambering I would go with initially. I'd like to end up with 6mm. But maybe like a 6mm Creedmoor or 6XC rather than a 243.
Just refresh the new post page, and you can't miss it.
Finally, it's been such a long wait ... they'll sell out in no time, but NEA has been selling them a while for export, so I hope they have good stock for a first run.
When we know, we'll post something.
Ryan
How many do you have in stock? Lol ��
Hopefully enough that I can get one!
The anticipation is wearing out the refresh button!
I have this tab open as well as one for the main SFRC folder, the NEA folder, and one on another unmentionable forum, as well as facebook open to the NEA page. I am wearing the paint off the F5 button...
I don't have the best service here at work so I had to add 2 gb to my phone plan already lol!! Running 4 different pages open
Anyone feeling déjÃ* vu?
Give it another 2 hours. Then it'll be 6pm in Vancouver so all of Canada will be back from work sitting at their computers.
we should try to guess the time of the announcement, and winner gets something: I'm thinking 8pm Eastern
I guess... 7PM PST... December 12, 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyLuc82
Nah,I believe today's the day!
I'll guess 6pm pst lol
Hope so, been waiting all dayQuote:
Originally Posted by Farmer2285
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The fail with this whole issue is huge.
Several months ago NEA started posing teaser pics of the rifle suggesting it would be NR.
Those are the sorts of things you do to build interest for going live with an "add to cart" option within a couple weeks.
This entire endeavour has shown that NEA does not have a real plan, and they have amateurs at the wheel making decisions.
That is unfortunate because I want NEA to do well. I am cheering for them, I want this rifle, and I have money ready.
However, they seem to be going out of their way to prove that they are incompetent enough not to deserve our money
If GOC makes any advertisement money every time we refresh, their bills will be paid up for the next 5 years at least
I hate to say it, but I've learned to be disappointed in NEA, but keep hoping for better.
It's going to take quite a bit for me to replace my xcr-m with the 102, I hope they release it soon and hit a home run.
If i had already laid out the money for an XCR, I probably wouldn't be that excited about the 102. As it stands though... I am eagerly anticipating this being announced NR tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by protozen
Thanks for posting this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petamocto
I somehow missed it the last 10 times you posted it on this thread.
All I can say is if they built it any way like they did my nea 15 I'd be more than happy! So far it's been accurate and reliable with both the ccs stock and milspec buffer!
So I guess 9 est wasn't the magic hour either...
Can someone please check the frt tables... FRT145970
Once we know if it's been issued we can all stop refreshing..
Isn't that the FRT for the NEA25. The NEA102 is 16XXXXQuote:
Originally Posted by LuckyLuc82
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFRC
Awww hell I saw you replied to the thread and I thought this was the long awaited announcement.
Ryan!!!!!!!!!!!
Damnit!!! Lol I have all the accessories for it lined up on my build table let me know if I can buy it for hunting!!!! Please!!!
Dammit!!
Well the way I see it SFRC is still on the forum so i believe that means the reveal is coming
Or.... he's just sitting around like the rest of us twiddling our thumbs and picking our noses hoping "this week" means tonight like they hoped, and not Saturday night...Quote:
Originally Posted by Codyg14
On another site he said he's waiting to hear just like the rest of us .. in the meantime, posted an NEA AR 15 sale.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Pariegh
:la:
Dude, common!!!
Yeah I just read that. Clearly has a good sence of humour lolQuote:
Originally Posted by protozen
hit counters are still lighting up like a christmas tree.
Haha, I just ordered one. Eagerly looking forward to spending more money along with everyone else. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by protozen
If I could find buyers for my piston core 15 and , and an old PSA build I need to complete, I would replace them with NEA. Otherwise no more ARs for me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lvivier
Well I'm guessing it's not gonna happen tonight! Here's to another day glued to the screen tomorrow!!!
Waiting patiently, but news on this highly anticipated unicorn is making me shake!
So close to good times!!!!
Well, I'm calling it a night.
I'm sure Ryan at SFRC is doing his best and will let us know as soon as he knows something.
In the meantime, I recall a saying... there's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again!
Now what do you suppose this could be: A Pink Unicorn
Weird
What I find the most intriguing about this thread is just how many members who rarely post anything are all over this. Nice to see the interwebz action, now to get it to creep into the rest of the forums! :D
Here we go with another day of constantly hitting refresh on four open tabs. After all this, if the announcement comes out that it is restricted... You might see a grown man cry.
Does anyone have any advice on a good scope and mount for this platform? I'm still using iron sights on my AR-15 and my only scoped rifle is a bolt action .308. I was thinking maybe a Vortex Viper 4-12 or maybe something with a higher level of magnification. Trying to stay in the $500-$800 range. My main use is punching paper out to 300 yards. Thanks for any and all advice.
I use a burris msr 3-9x40 with the Burris pepr mount on my xcr and a nikon 1-6 with a burris pepr mount on one of my ar's the pepr mount seems to hold nicely at the right hight without breaking the bank!
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So I just heard a rumour the frt is out? True?
http://www.theammosource.com/index.p...oducts_id=7705Quote:
Originally Posted by mossler
:la:Quote:
Originally Posted by jwirecom109
Sold out already?!?
:FP2Quote:
Originally Posted by Smc
That's funny stuff right there, lol.
Are the RC's changing their minds?
They had their minds made up the minute they saw this gun.
They're stalling until they can get someone to back up their call.
I believe they are stalling for sure. but if it's anything close to the modern hunter design it should be no problem
It isn't close to the MH/MV design though which was designed specifically not to be a variant of the AR-15, it is an actual AR based off the original AR-102 design. NEA's rifle is based on an AR-10 variant that already has a NR status, despite there being few to none in Canada. Pretty much all modern AR-10's are actually scaled up AR-15's and that is why they are restricted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Farmer2285
So will ar-10 options fit this or ...?
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Maybe...Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshua13
But right now the stupid thing isn't even released
Another day lost..another gig of data lost...
Gosh when will I learn! Lol
I'm wearing out my phone refreshing all the time lol
All we can do is hope for tomorrow...
You're more likely to read this announcement first...Quote:
Originally Posted by Randomized
https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/AAEA...Y2RjNWIyOQ.jpg
https://s10.postimg.org/8t7bz6vjt/Sc...3-19-38-54.png
We have been hitting refresh for soooo long.
Hopefully it's not another type 81! But I do have faith NEA was told they'd have an answer this week we're all just so excited that we can't contain it lol
I'm not on the Facebook.
What exactly did they say, anyway?
That they'd be getting an answer this week and they'd announce it on goc could be as early as Monday night is basically what they said
Expect to make an announcement on GOC for Monday night...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
They basically said that the lab has finished the classification process and they (NEA) should know what it is soon and they should have an announcement on the GOC forums at the latest by the end of the week, and it would quite likely be (last) Monday night.
I think NEA should have waited at least until they knew for sure what the classification was before they started the hype train rolling again. I'm being cautiously optimistic that it will be NR but not really counting on it as a sure thing. Now there will be a lot of very disappointed people if the lab found a way to make it restricted.
http://thefw.com/files/2012/10/great-pumpkin-linus.jpg
Classified as restricted? The hopes and dreams of a relatively inexpensive, accurate, non restricted semi-auto dashed... However, the 8 Ball says that it will come out as non-restricted. I haven't been led astray yet.
I've got nothing but time. Nothing I can do to make this go any quicker anyway.
I have never let a girl cock-tease me to this extent. Why the hell am I letting a gun manufacturer do basically the same thing?
This sums up NEA's marketing strategy all too wellQuote:
Originally Posted by ilikemoose
Guns are more fun, they never say no and they never leave you with a case of blue balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizz Axxemann
Actually I believe the 102 has give many of us blue balls so far, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SCONA
My credit card has blue balls right now too. It has been primed and ready for some NEA goodness and lots of ammo and accessories.
I've come to the conclusion that it will be announced tomorrow to coincide with many firearm owners paydays. Then we can all be broke shortly after and NEA will have a wheelbarrow full of money.
Nea may be getting dicked around by rcmp but all I know is to say they're expecting an announcement Monday and then not address the situation when they haven't heard anything leaves a bad taste in my mouth for nea.
NEA said that rcmp told them they will get the answer this week. So until the weeks over it's all good to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Therapy
Well, when the rcmp does stuff like this, the future of NR AR style rifles does not look so good.
https://s22.postimg.org/h92qhr6b5/FB...7454656554.jpg
Okay my bad. It does say this week sometime on their fb page. I thought I read somewhere that a decision was imminent on the Monday.
In the comments under that post they did say to expect Ã*t monday nightQuote:
Originally Posted by Therapy
I agree. Waiting sucks, but I do appreciate the heads up and will wait the week without issue. I'm sure I'll complain and hit the refresh button and be all excited, but that is a much better option than not knowing the announcement is coming this week and missing out on the first batch that go up for sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Codyg14
My prediction is Friday afternoon. The RCMP probably mailed out the papers Monday. Give Canada Post four days to deliver it, and NEA will disseminate the information as soon as they receive it. That being said, I hope it is today!
Yup. From their fb page
North Eastern Arms
We expect Monday night... watch Goc for the news
Also from their fb page in April
North Eastern Arms
The clock runs out on the RCMP in 30 days. They have to give us a classification by end of May.
Nothing today so don't use all your data.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pariegh
the original ar-10 (original run of 10k rifles 1955-1959) predates the ar15/m16 (1957) by a couple years..... technically speaking the ar15 should be a variant of the ar-10.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyph3r
if nea successfully followed original ar10 drawings (adding an sp1 "bump" to meet current interpretation of "law") there should be no issues..... the magazine on the other hand may throw a rock in it.
ar-10a - stoner/sr-25 style (original pattern)
ar-10b - proprietary armalite (modified m14 mags)
i think they would be on safer ground using the m14 mags..... IMHO
For sure,
Cheap and if it can take xcr-m pistol mags? 10 rounds of pew pew.. someone might have a heart attack and find reasons to restrict.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Westicle
Isn't this machined from a prohibited block of aluminum?
Maybe they're all prohib now :smash:
you could still use the aia enfield mags in the ar-10b pattern, they wouldn't have last shot hold open thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by sushix2
yeah the E-Lander onesQuote:
Originally Posted by Westicle
but the problem is that those ones don't have the cut out for the magazine retention thing
http://i.imgur.com/1l7f9sb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/69xQ68I.jpg?1
and I suspect modifying a mag to have that notch would be analogous to "manufacturing" etc etc.. all boils down to do you wanna risk pound you in the ass prison.
They posted on facebook that they take standard AR10 mags
Actually I didn't see an Ar 10/102 80% lower listed on the list of prohibited ones so I'd say no it was not! Bit I know what you mean lol
You are aware that NEA has been promising announcements on this for almost 6 months?There has been several pending announcements which have gone nowhere.At this point I think it would be in NEA's best interest to say nothing till it has an FRT in hand and product on the way to the retailers.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilGrin
Yeah I have been following along since the beginning and I know how it feels to see a message that gets us all excited and then be left in the dark. But I'm pretty forgiving as I understand what NEA is trying to accomplish. Just think about how long people have been talking about making a new non-restricted AR-102. People have been begging manufacturers and importers to make it happen. All I have heard from everyone else is that if we can provide a full set of dimensioned fabrication drawings then they will make it happen. And then we have NEA who decided to make it happen for real. They put in the time and effort as well as R&D money into it in order to give us what we have been asking for for years. Are they great at communicating and setting realistic expectations on time lines? LOL No not at all. Are they working on giving us something we have been wanting for what feels like forever? Absolutely. For that much I am grateful.Quote:
Originally Posted by ESnel
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...80521925309231
Of course the link didn't work... go look at NEA's FB page
on NEA's facebook. :rolleyes:
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...71&oe=599EB468
Seems legit. Pre-orders now?
Well that clears everything up.
LOL
Scamp
Must have been bring your kids to work day for the RCMP
Really? They keep everyone waiting and then post this. Not lol.
C'mon lighten up a bit. It's all in good funQuote:
Originally Posted by Therapy
Sorry. Guess I'm getting grumpier as I get older but I find no humour in it at all.
Doesn't matter if it's very funny.
It's a joke at the rcmp's expense, so I'll laugh at them.
if real when can we order IF we can order?
Probably next year sometime..Quote:
Originally Posted by enoch
I don't think so...NEA already has them on production so it's a matter of offering the accessories, finish and taking orders!
At least I hope so!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
Actually it was a joke directed at NEA, it was never meant to be a jab at the lab.
Ryan
I would get one regardless of classification.
If it does get classed as NR, please tell us that you have them in stock and ready to ship post haste?Quote:
Originally Posted by SFRC
I'm hoping for an announcement tomorrow. It would be a nice weekend starter! Any bets on how fast they'll sell out?
the "other forum" has it pretty clearly stated as a NR rifle....
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